That idea came to us via Damon Lindelof, the creator of the show. A lot of that was my own issues. My dad and I have had a difficult relationship sometimes, and I think that that was, you know, one of the things that brought us closer together over the years. When my parents started dating - my dad was my mom's divorce lawyer (laughter). And then he refused to meet me after I was born. I'm Terry Gross. After we take a short break, we'll remember our longtime language commentator Geoff Nunberg. One of them was about when you were diagnosed with atrial fibrillation, which is basically a very irregular or fast heartbeat, which can be very dangerous. He takes that hood and uses it to disguise himself to fight white supremacists.

The HBO show uses sci-fi and superheroes to examine American racism. Let's get back to my interview with Cord Jefferson.

So the writers' room for "Watchmen" was a diverse writers' room. GROSS: It's been a pleasure to talk with you. “Millions of Screens” is available on Anchor, Apple Podcasts, Breaker, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and Stitcher. The consequences are minimal, if any. So that's a lot to celebrate. As the FBI investigates the murder, Angela wants to know more about her grandfather, so she swallows his bottle of a drug called Nostalgia. JEFFERSON: Yeah.

And I think that - you know, that was incredibly important for me because yeah, otherwise, if you don't have that reassurance, I think that I could have gone in a totally different direction. We’ve seen a lot of people quoting that Atlantic article, “The Cruelty Is the Point.” I’m really amazed that they moved the date back [a day]. And there was not a lot of ethnic diversity whatsoever. JEFFERSON: Yeah. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. But it’s more accurate (though less snappy) to say that success in Hollywood is all about who believes in you. And so he was a big advocate for me going there.

You can find out for yourself on this week’s episode, which features a cut-down of the extensive conversation between the three guests, with brief interludes from co-hosts TV Awards Editor Libby Hill, TV Deputy Editor Ben Travers, and Creative Producer Leo Garcia, of course. He wrote for "The Good Place," "Master Of None" and Larry Wilmore's show of political satire and conversation "The Nightly Show." GROSS: Well, I want to get back to very good news, which is that you're nominated for an Emmy for writing an episode of "Watchmen," and the show's nominated for 26 Emmys. And so I think that that is an incredibly important lesson for people who want to run shows. I'll try.

And I have spent a lot of time in my adult life trying to figure out the ways in which my dad influenced me and affected the way that I behave. And, you know, reading that now, during the COVID pandemic, I think that just has a very special resonance now. But fellow cops who are white supremacists lynched him with a black hood over him and then cut him down and basically said, next time we're not going to cut you down. And she would explain, it has nothing to do with you. I go to a whole lot of therapy. And I think he looked into it and decided it was pretty gruesome and that he didn't ultimately want to do it. And my dad had - there was some history there where my dad - the Black Law Students Association of William & Mary is named after my father because he had gone there for law school. GROSS: Were there any personal experiences you drew on in writing the series? Stay on top of the latest breaking film and TV news! He wanted to, in fact, get out of the way. And I think when you were born, she - he refused to see her anymore because you were Black. That's why I volunteered immediately, is because it felt like he'd given me life. But, anyways, when you got through all of this, how did it change your feeling about your body and your vulnerability and mortality? I have been employed doing a job that I enjoy, and I know that there are so many people who have lost their work during these times. Combine an intelligent interviewer with a roster of guests that, according to the Chicago Tribune, would be prized by any talk-show host, and you're bound to get an interesting conversation. He read it with his father. And so, eventually, he came to my brothers and I and asked if we would be willing to donate. It was a stupid thing to say, the kind of low-risk rebellion a teenager from the suburbs engages to seem dangerous and irreverent, like smoking a joint or shoplifting or wearing eyeliner, all of which I have also tried." You could - you know that, ultimately, he was thinking about her and wanted to reach out, but something in him just wasn't allowing him to do it. In 2014, you wrote a piece about your mother and her diagnosis of a type of breast cancer that's very aggressive and very difficult to treat, and I regret to say she died in 2016. He was a writer on the HBO series "Watchmen," which is nominated for 26 Emmys, more than any other show.

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He died Tuesday after a long illness. You've written some really good personal essays. And your mother is white, and she - and your father is Black.

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